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posted by: JmcV (reply) post date: 10.19.04 (5:53 am) an 80 as the highest mark in the class, in a first year english class? that doesn't sound right to me. i'd talk to the prof about that, and if they don't give you a damn good explanation, i'd perhaps file an academic dispute. the english department is really bad for handing out marks above 80's. we had a long discussion about it in my irish lit class, my prof was telling us how it took him years and years to realize that, contrary to how others in his department were grading, he could actually give out 90's on assignments for english. i would seriously talk to somebody about that because it just doesn't seem right to me. jenny's just watchin yer back here. ;o) posted by: JmcV (reply) post date: 10.19.04 (5:54 am) P.S. just thought you'd like to know that as i am making this post, i am currently visitor # 6969 according to your counter. hooray!! posted by: rilla (reply) post date: 10.19.04 (2:43 pm) MmcV I can give you an explanation right now. The first batch of essays sucks. I'm not shitting you. You get a bunch of ill-concieved poorly organized essays with no actual thesis statements that give three pages of plot summary instead of three pages of analysis. Quotations are misrepresented and there are maybe a third of the students who look like they actually understand the text that they've written on. Just finished marking my first essays of the year: Class Average 58% Highest mark 85. Five Failures. I'm guessing that Michelle is in a class that is mostly composed of students fresh out of high school and just don't know how to write properly yet. I'm actually proud that she got the mark that she did. Your next essay is going to kick-ass. posted by: rilla (reply) post date: 10.19.04 (2:43 pm) Reply to: rilla I was talking to JmcV... not this mysterious MmcV. posted by: care (reply) post date: 10.20.04 (2:40 pm) Reply to: rilla you know... I was wondering if there was some multiple personality thing going on with that girl... hmmmmmmm? MmcV show yourself... are you in there right now? posted by: JmcV (reply) post date: 10.21.04 (12:56 am) Reply to: rilla in my first year english class, lots of people got decent marks on their first essay. i still think michelle should be damn proud of getting the third-highest mark in the class, but if they're so unsure of people's first-year writing skills, i should hope that they put a fairly small weight on that first essay. i guess i've just heard too much about the english department shenanigans and their unwillingness to give an essay anything higher than a 95 or so. my irish lit prof was talking about it - it's some sort of taboo with the humanities department and a sort of unwillingness to acknowledge the existence of a "100%" grade. but...considering that i've never graded even one paper let alone a whole classroom full of them...i guess i'm just one of those people who "has all the answers" but will get a rude awakening once i actually have to be in it myself. posted by: Marko (reply) post date: 10.21.04 (4:30 am) Reply to: JmcV Who's your Irish Lit prof? posted by: rilla (reply) post date: 10.21.04 (2:00 pm) Reply to: JmcV I can't speak for Michelle's class, but our first essay is only worth five percent and if it's the lowest mark in the class it gets dropped. I do agree that there is a tendency to scrimp on marks in the humanities, especially English. I've been in University for an obscene amount of time and I've only ever gotten two marks of 90-and-over for an essay project. If there are other profs who are changing this within their own classrooms, I applaud them. It's a discouraging practice. I would add though, that if this low average is a consistent thing throughout the class year that Michelle should consider registering a complaint. I just wanted to let you know that it's really really common for there to be a below-average average for the first batch of essays. posted by: rilla (reply) post date: 10.21.04 (2:05 pm) Reply to: JmcV Oh, one other thing regarding your point that there were some pretty good marks from your class for the first essay of English 110. I've got this theory that the preparation for Universirty level studies is slipping in high school across Canada. I was talking with my nephew who is now in Grade 12 in Alberta, and the majority of works that they study in their English class are works that have a film adapatation. He was telling me that sometimes they don't complete the work at all, and simply watch the film. Go figure. Maybe his classroom is the exception to the rule, maybe not. posted by: ToddM (reply) post date: 10.24.04 (2:19 am) I guess Lex got her hair coloring fix without my help :) posted by: care (reply) post date: 10.29.04 (9:04 am) Reply to: ToddM not really... you're going to have to pop by our place sometime in the beginning-mid november... we're doing touch ups... heh... you WILL conform... consume and obey, not neccessarily in that order tho... lol... yes, todd with purple hair... actually, that would look good come to think of it.... |
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