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posted by: Shark99 (reply) post date: 05.15.04 (1:29 pm) We are all gapping apes. posted by: therealspartacus007 (reply) post date: 05.15.04 (4:22 pm) Your teacher taught it pretty poorly- no evolutionary theory teaches humans have evolved from apes. posted by: SNEEVIL (reply) post date: 05.15.04 (5:44 pm) Reply to: therealspartacus007 You didn't even read what I had to say, did you? Now I must swear at you. #*$%&^!!!! Who the hell cares! I thought I made it pretty plain that the teacher was a schmuck. I was told that God was an APE! Do you not see my point? posted by: therealspartacus007 (reply) post date: 05.15.04 (6:56 pm) Reply to: SNEEVIL Yea, I got your point. I just wanted to comment on a slightly different one. posted by: care (reply) post date: 05.16.04 (1:00 pm) Reply to: therealspartacus007 have you taken an anthropology class? and what evolutionary theories do you have of human existence?... I know of a couple... but please, add more. posted by: Trent (reply) post date: 05.16.04 (3:42 pm) Reply to: therealspartacus007 Not so. There are many theories that humans have evolved from apes. To say that there are none, is kinda weird. I personally, like the "wet ape" theory, or the "equatic ape" theory. posted by: drubius (reply) post date: 05.16.04 (5:19 pm) I also wonder why you take vampire books that include Lilith as important clues in your search for the truth? posted by: therealspartacus007 (reply) post date: 05.16.04 (6:18 pm) Reply to: care Yes, I have taken an anthropology class and all the ones I am aware of have humans and apes on different evolutionary paths, with a common ancestor dating many millions of years ago. If there is one I was not taught, please educate me, I have to defend evolution a lot and I want to know all about it. posted by: therealspartacus007 (reply) post date: 05.16.04 (6:22 pm) Reply to: Trent OK, no scientific theories- I'm sure people who have no idea what's going on have made up all sorts of whacky scenarios. The "aquatic ape" theory you refer to does not say humans evolved from apes. Like all theories of human evolution I am aware of, apes and humans have evolved seperatly, with a common ancestor millions of years ago. In fact, the aquatic ape theory relies on the difference between human and ape for one of its key supports. For Further Reference: http://articles.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BFU/is_6_88/ai_94509526 posted by: SNEEVIL (reply) post date: 05.16.04 (8:09 pm) *SIGH* posted by: mgareau (reply) post date: 05.16.04 (8:14 pm) Reply to: drubius Well, with the information that I have been provided with, why not? posted by: Trent (reply) post date: 05.16.04 (8:34 pm) Reply to: therealspartacus007 I like to strain a gnat, too. posted by: rilla (reply) post date: 05.16.04 (10:17 pm) Reply to: SNEEVIL Alright Snee... I just wanna say, I hear your pain. As I went to a very strict Protestant school, they had the same problems. They barely taught evolution and explained that it was just one of the many theories regarding how humanity came to be. Being a religious school they taught Creationism. It has still left me with unanswered questions regarding Creationism versus Evolution so don't feel like you're the only one who thought this way. And ignore all these losers (not you Care) who have ignored your topic regarding religion and science completely. posted by: care (reply) post date: 05.16.04 (11:37 pm) Reply to: drubius clues in search of the truth... interesting... are you assuming that there is only one truth? everything has two sides right? nothing could possibly be a hexagon of truths? Hey, thats a cool title for a song... sneev... lets get jen and work that out! posted by: Thunderhowl (reply) post date: 05.17.04 (2:48 am) It's because religeon is a crutch my dear. Faith begins where reason ends. It's easy to say "Just because" when you don't have a rational answer. posted by: care (reply) post date: 05.17.04 (8:10 am) Reply to: Thunderhowl AHHHHhhh... a lovely athiest?... I wouldn't say I was religious... just spiritual... However you need to clarify if you include various other emotions into this religious emotion. Which in turn could easily be a comibination of mental reasoning for an emotion of a spiritual concept. would love also be a crutch? or the feelings there of, along with the elation of pain? *meaning the pain expressed by giving birth or on a lesser extent doing something successfully after an enormous amount of pain exertion which would weild an adrenaline rush as well? posted by: drubius (reply) post date: 05.17.04 (3:17 pm) Reply to: care I wasn't implying or assuming that there are any truths. It just seemed an odd jump to me for the author to go from Creationism to vampires, and furthermore to include Lilith among the latter ilk... i thought Lilith was an early fertility goddess? And I imagine there are far more than 2 sides to most things. posted by: drubius (reply) post date: 05.17.04 (3:17 pm) Reply to: care I wasn't implying or assuming that there are any truths. It just seemed an odd jump to me for the author to go from Creationism to vampires, and furthermore to include Lilith among the latter ilk... i thought Lilith was an early fertility goddess? And I imagine there are far more than 2 sides to most things. posted by: therealspartacus007 (reply) post date: 05.17.04 (5:37 pm) Reply to: Trent I've taken classes on Anthropology and Archaeology, and my professors were very adamant about ensuring we realized that evolutionists do not think humans evolved from apes. Now, biology is not my expertise, so please let me know if there are any theory camels I'm swallowing. posted by: Trent (reply) post date: 05.17.04 (6:05 pm) Reply to: therealspartacus007 What term (if not "ape") is your term of choice for that from which you have the notion that humans evolved? And then describe why that term is so superior to render the term "ape" both useless and false. posted by: SNEEVIL (reply) post date: 05.17.04 (7:17 pm) Reply to: drubius Well you see, I only thought to illustrate the possibility (vague though it may be) that vampirism could be just as plasuable an explanation as any evolutionary theory or religion, considering the carelessness with which it has been explained to me. As far as I'm concerned, we might as well have been born from the spore of the caterpillar's magic mushroom. It would have made just as much sense as anything else. An odd jump? Possibly, but perhaps not so odd when you consider the root of the whole conversation. posted by: SNEEVIL (reply) post date: 05.17.04 (7:18 pm) Reply to: drubius Well you see, I only thought to illustrate the possibility (vague though it may be) that vampirism could be just as plasuable an explanation as any evolutionary theory or religion, considering the carelessness with which it has been explained to me. As far as I'm concerned, we might as well have been born from the spore of the caterpillar's magic mushroom. It would have made just as much sense as anything else. An odd jump? Possibly, but perhaps not so odd when you consider the root of the whole conversation. posted by: care the non human one (reply) post date: 05.18.04 (12:35 am) Reply to: SNEEVIL AAAAAHHHHH you've stumbled accross the magic mushroom theory... the snaaaaakkkeeee... the snnaaaaakkke is comingggggg.. but seriously folks... why is it that lilith is fertility? and we are decendant... well you guys are anyway... decendents of a little rat like creature... well kind of lemming like really if you want to go back that far.... speaking of going back that far.... when are you up for cthulu? posted by: SNEEVIL (reply) post date: 05.18.04 (7:49 am) Reply to: care Bring it on!!! posted by: JmcV (reply) post date: 05.25.04 (3:41 pm) I knew a heavily catholic family that beat their children if they ever mentioned anything about evolution, and said that there is no way dinosaurs or corals or anything else more than 10,000 years old actually existed because god only created the world 10,000 years ago. as far as actually reconciling the two theories - michelle, your teacher was a schmuck. a total one. the best way i ever heard it explained is that god created all the other animals first, and then when he decided that he wanted a human, he took one of the animals that was most like himself already, and accelerated its growth in a certain direction so that it would be more like him and be in his image. and as for the "faith begins where reason ends" comment - may i say that i agree with you on this, but that i see that as a positive as opposed to a negative. sometimes there are things, good and bad, that happen beyond reason and beyond explanation and beyond any sort of logic or plan or precaution that we can take. reason is a crutch as well, and when it falls out on us, it's nice to have a second crutch to fall back on. |
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